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Orion Hotfix 3 do not fix the SNMP interface adding issue

Last post 09-05-2007 2:23 AM by Shailesh. 10 replies.
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  • 08-30-2007 6:49 AM

    • Shailesh
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    Orion Hotfix 3 do not fix the SNMP interface adding issue

     Hi All,

     I have installed a new ver 8.1 of Orion Network Performance Monitor on the E drive of my server running Windows 2003. Have installed hotfixes 1 to 4. However, even after installing these hotfixes I am not able to add any SNMP enabled interfaces. The error is the same that hotfix 3 was supposed to resolve. Have tried to collect the same information with a standalone utilties called SNMPUtility and Solarwind Engineers Toolset & the data does flow into these utilities. Pls help me with this issue since I have been trying hard to get it resolved.  The device I am trying to add is a Bayshore Networks singleKey with the sysobjectID as .1.3.6.1.4.1.12903.900.1. Have also noted that the Engine Status   Polling Engine Down under the Admin section even though the poller is running. Pls also take a look at the attached gif file.
     


    Thanks,
    Shailesh
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  • 08-30-2007 9:42 AM In reply to

    Re: Orion Hotfix 3 do not fix the SNMP interface adding issue

     If the Hotfix did not work I would encourage you to submit a support ticket. One suggestion would be to try to add the device through it’s hostname, then once added, go into the devices Node Details and change the IP Address to read correctly. 

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  • 08-30-2007 11:09 AM In reply to

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    Re: Orion Hotfix 3 do not fix the SNMP interface adding issue

     Thanks for the prompt response mark........however the problem is that this device is kind of a firewall which does not have a particular hostname and it can be only be connected by it's ip address. Any other resolution that you could think of would be really helpful. And moreover as reported in the initial psot, why does the Engine Status shows as to be down on the Orion webinterface.  Is it a false message or is it for true.

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    Shailesh
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  • 08-30-2007 11:34 AM In reply to

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    Re: Orion Hotfix 3 do not fix the SNMP interface adding issue

    Shailesh,

    As to the Polling Engine status on the website, it is likely false. The best method to see if the polling engine is running is to look at the Polling Status window from the Systgem Manager. For your interface monitoring on the Bayshore device your best course of action is to open a ticket. Looking at a sniffer trace of the communications involved when adding the device will give the support team a good idea of what may be going wrong in your case.

    Cheers,

    Dan Wendeln
    Sr. Field Application Engineer
    SolarWinds
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  • 08-31-2007 7:16 AM In reply to

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    Re: Orion Hotfix 3 do not fix the SNMP interface adding issue

    Thanks Ishikawa for the reply. As per your advice, I have managed to capture packets between Solarwind Engineers Toolset-Bayshore Device & Orion Solarwind-Bayshore Device. The difference that I was able to make out was that in the first scenario i.e Solarwind Engineers Toolset-Bayshore Device... the source port was 3851  and the destination was 161 (bayshore device) & the device did reply back with the appropriate values. However, in the second scenario, the the source port was 1744  and the destination was 161 (bayshore device) and ethereal was able to capture packets from the device to Orion server with the ICMP error code 3...destination unreachable...port unreachable. Note that both Orion and toolset are on one server and the windows firewall is disabled on this server. What is the usual source/destination port does orion use to/from a SNMP enabled device?...And can it be changed? And can u pls check the attached Polling Status screenshot and tell me whether polling is indeed happening.


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    Shailesh
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  • 08-31-2007 8:18 AM In reply to

    • Ishikawa
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    Re: Orion Hotfix 3 do not fix the SNMP interface adding issue

    Shailesh,

     The port numbers that you reference are all normal. the source port will always be some random high port. THere is not a way to specify the source port. The destination port, however, will always be the same, 161. From what you describe it is not the SNMP side of the conversation wich is the problem, it is the initial ping check that Orion does when adding a node. That fact that you are getting a 'destination unreachable' message points to an ICMP communications issue. The first thing I would do is go into Orion via the SYstem Manager and delete the ICMP payload. You reach this setting by selecting File --> Orion Network Perferformance Monitor Setting --> Netwrok tab. By default it is set to "SolarWinds Orion Network Performance Monitor Engine Version 8.1.3" delete the entire string, and try adding the device again. It is also possible that the device may be set to not reply to ping requests.

    As for your polling engine appears to be running, however, you really have very little setup to poll at this time.

    Cheers,

    Dan Wendeln
    Sr. Field Application Engineer
    SolarWinds
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  • 08-31-2007 8:43 AM In reply to

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    Re: Orion Hotfix 3 do not fix the SNMP interface adding issue

     Thanks Ishikawa.... As you have exactly pointed it out the device is configured not to reply to ICMP (Ping packets). And I did try to add the device by removing the entry "SolarWinds Orion Network Performance Monitor Engine Version 8.1.3" but to no avail. Is it possilbe to configure Orion not to send those ping packets initially and just make a SNMP Get request. However, the packets that I was able to capture flowing from Solarwind Orion-Bayshore Device, there was no packet with the Echo request....pls advise.

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    Shailesh
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  • 09-04-2007 6:13 AM In reply to

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    Re: Orion Hotfix 3 do not fix the SNMP interface adding issue

    Hi All,

     Would be great if anyone could answer my above query. Desperately in need of a resolution.

    Thanks,
    Shailesh
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  • 09-04-2007 7:23 AM In reply to

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    Re: Orion Hotfix 3 do not fix the SNMP interface adding issue

    I don't think there is a way to simply monitor via SNMP in Orion.

    Couldn't you just edit an access list and allow snmp traffic from the server running Orion only? 

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  • 09-04-2007 8:18 AM In reply to

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    Re: Orion Hotfix 3 do not fix the SNMP interface adding issue

    Shailesh,

    As Mithrihall has pointed out, Orion must be able to ping the device in order to add it and allow SNMP monitoring to the device.

    Cheers,

    Dan Wendeln
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    SolarWinds
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  • 09-05-2007 2:23 AM In reply to

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    Re: Orion Hotfix 3 do not fix the SNMP interface adding issue

    Thanks for your reply. We are planning to enable ICMP on the Bayshore device and then try adding the device to Solarwinds. Think this should work this time, if ICMP was at all the issue. May need your help further incase this does not work. Thanks again for your help. 

    Thanks,
    Shailesh
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