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  • 07-15-2008 12:28 PM

    Mail Queue Length: Not Found

    Just installed version 1.0.2 and it seems to be working ok except Mail Queue Length which says "Not Found".  Exchange is 2003 and running on a Windows 2003 cluster.  Exchange Monitor is on Vista SP1.  DCOM and WMI permissions seem ok on both the server and workstation.  The account I'm using has full admin rights to both boxes.  I also tried refreshing the WMI namespace on the server.  Any other suggestions?

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  • 07-15-2008 1:38 PM In reply to

    Re: Mail Queue Length: Not Found

     Was Mail Queue Length working before on your previous installation?

    Chris LaPoint
    Sr. Product Manager
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    SolarWinds
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  • 07-21-2008 6:25 AM In reply to

    Re: Mail Queue Length: Not Found

    This is a fresh install.  Haven't used any previous versions.

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  • 07-21-2008 9:00 AM In reply to

    Re: Mail Queue Length: Not Found

    From the machine where you are trying to run the Exchange Monitor, could you please try verifying WMI connection using WBEMTEST?

    1. On command line execute wbemtest

    2. Connect to the Exchange Server (\\EXCHANGE_SERVER\root\default) and specify the credentials you are using in Exchange Monitor

    3. Try running the following query

    SELECT LocalQueueLength from Win32_PerfRawData_SMTPSVC_SMTPServer

    This should give you a more detailed error of why we are running into this issue.

    Chris LaPoint
    Sr. Product Manager
    NCM (Cirrus), ipMonitor, LANsurveyor
    SolarWinds
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  • 07-21-2008 10:47 AM In reply to

    Re: Mail Queue Length: Not Found

    Ok, here's what I got.

     The Win32_PerfRawData_SMTPSVC_SMTPServer class does not exist in \\servername\root\default.  Trying to query on it gives an Invalid Class error.

     I did see the class in \\servername\root\cimv2.  Running your query there succeeds but shows no objects in the list.  Not sure if that's expected or not.

    I checked a couple of other servers on the class existence and none of them have any Win32_PerfRawData classes in \root\default - only in \root\cimv2

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  • 07-25-2008 10:52 AM In reply to

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    Re: Mail Queue Length: Not Found

    Chris:

    I've got identical symptoms and query results, on a single Exchange 2003 server setup, whether the main AD Aministrator account is used or my slightly derated one...

    In looking at the query contents, is/are there corresponding counter[s] in PerfMon that can be checked to see if values are being properly passed?

    Thanks...

    Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

    Arthur C. Clarke
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  • 07-28-2008 12:48 PM In reply to

    Re: Mail Queue Length: Not Found

    Well, now all of the sudden it's working.  I have no idea why.

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  • 07-28-2008 1:07 PM In reply to

    Re: Mail Queue Length: Not Found

    Do you by any chance run outlook or another client that connects to Exchange Server with different credentials on the same machine as Exchange Monitor? If so does the behavior differ if the non-Exchange Monitor connection is made before Exchange Monitor is brought up.

    We are looking into the possibility that this issue may have something to do with multiple credentials connecting to the same server.

    Sham Chauthani
    Development Manager
    SolarWinds
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  • 07-28-2008 1:41 PM In reply to

    Re: Mail Queue Length: Not Found

    I run Outlook on the same machine, but Exchange Monitor is configured to use the logged on user credentials so it would be using the same credentials as Outlook.

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  • 07-28-2008 1:43 PM In reply to

    Re: Mail Queue Length: Not Found

    Here's another bit of info.  Now that Exchange Monitor is running correctly on my machine, I tried to run the query that Chris listed earlier in this post and still get the same results back - Invalid Class

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  • 08-01-2008 3:18 PM In reply to

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    Re: Mail Queue Length: Not Found

    Hey Sham... just checking in after a time away...

    My client configuration is the same i.e. single set of credentials for both Monitor and Outlook. Unfortunately, my setup has not had the queues magically reappear.

    The other thing is that this account is a member of Domain Admins, but is not the full (built-in) AD Administrator account... Would certain selective Exchange rights have to be assigned to my account for Monitor to run properly?

     Regards...

    Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

    Arthur C. Clarke
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  • 08-04-2008 10:25 AM In reply to

    Re: Mail Queue Length: Not Found

    We are currently investigating this issue and trying to reproduce it in house. We hope to offer some workarounds or configuration tweaks to get this working.

    Sham Chauthani
    Development Manager
    SolarWinds
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  • 08-22-2008 12:29 PM In reply to

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    Re: Mail Queue Length: Not Found

    Sham:

    Just a follow-up and FYI:

    Thought I'd try to eliminate any possible effects due to firewalls etc. and installed the Monitor directly unto our Exchange 2003 Server SP2, currently running in default mixed mode - which will probably be raised to full Exchange 2003 after a DR backup. Exchange is running on a member Server 2003 Standard [not R2] SP2), in a native Server 2003 mode AD setup.

    Result? Same, no queues.

    Issue may be caused either by something missing in our Exchange install, or your product was developed using R2 as a platform (and I know Microsoft changed some of the underlying architecture between first release and R2).

    Hope this helps... We'd love to see our queue lengths...

    Ross

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  • 08-22-2008 1:18 PM In reply to

    Re: Mail Queue Length: Not Found

     Have you used the AppBuilder to browse to the WMI counters on your exchange server to see if you can create a component monitor that way?

    Denny LeCompte
    Sr. Product Manager, Orion
    SolarWinds
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  • 08-22-2008 1:31 PM In reply to

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    Re: Mail Queue Length: Not Found

    Thanks for the speedy response!

    Short answer to your question: No.

    I'm drawing a blank here (call me seriously time-challenged), but is there a Reader's Digest version of instructions and/or link to do this?

    Thanks...

    Ross

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  • 08-22-2008 2:58 PM In reply to

    Re: Mail Queue Length: Not Found

    http://www.solarwinds.com/NetPerfMon/SolarWinds/wwhelp/wwhimpl/common/html/wwhelp.htm?context=SolarWinds&file=ApplicationPerformanceMonitorAdministratorGuide.5.22.htm#9000316

    Denny LeCompte
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  • 09-09-2008 1:24 AM In reply to

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    Re: Mail Queue Length: Not Found

    Ok, same trouble here..

    Have changed the permissions of the whole WMI tree to no avail, started with what was suggested, and ended up changing everything..

    Could this have anything to do with scw being run on ex2003svr?

    I have tried it on the server itself, but same results also.

    Can you tell me the exact keys it is looking for, as the previous test in this post was a dead end like the other members?

     

     

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  • 09-09-2008 1:36 AM In reply to

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    Re: Mail Queue Length: Not Found

     Aha, the wmiadap.exe /f did it. Thanks

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  • 09-09-2008 11:35 AM In reply to

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    Re: Mail Queue Length: Not Found

    I to have into this issue. I am running a MS SBS but it should work the same if im not mistaken??

     I have checked all of my WMI permissions and they are alright.  I to have Tried the first post involving the Win32_PerfRawData_SMTPSVC_SMTP and indeed I also come away with the Invalid Class error.

     I ran the same query against "root\cimv2" with my machine which WMI is defaulting to as opposed to "root\DEFAULT"  and It does return an empty query which I assumed from the comments above me.

    I have also refreshed my WMI counters on my client machine VIA "wmiadap.exe /f " with know results?

     Anyone get any a defined answer for this issue Yet???

    Thx Noncentz

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  • 09-09-2008 7:07 PM In reply to

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    Re: Mail Queue Length: Not Found

    performed a wmiadap.exe /f on the server which fixed mine up.

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